B2B Marketing with Dave Gerhardt

• High-Pressure CMO Roles, Avoiding Burnout, and Growing your Personal Brand with Amanda Goetz

  #244: Professional Growth | Dave is joined by Amanda Goetz, a 2x founder, 3x CMO, and the author behind the popular weekly newsletter, Life's A Game. Amanda shares her expertise in personal and professional growth, brand building, and content creation.Amanda and Dave cover:How Amanda transformed her LinkedIn strategy to grow her following and engagementThe impact of personal branding on social media and its role in business growthCreating a feedback loop to refine and improve content strategyTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (08:21) - - How to Use LinkedIn Video (11:49) - - Shifting from Twitter to LinkedIn (15:35) - - Developing a Clearer Target Market and Products (16:18) - - Building Sustainable Momentum Amid Burnout: A CMO's Perspective (20:39) - - Why Your Content Strategy Must Be Focused (27:17) - - The Brand Pyramid (28:12) - - The Emotion Behind Branding (31:42) - - People Are What Matter In Branding Success (37:20) - - The Growing Creator Economy vs. Traditional Corporations (38:38) - - Creating Emotional Brand Connections for Growth Marketing (43:10) - - How Amanda Became a Fractional CMO (45:44) - - Why Amanda Looks to Alex Lieberman for Inspiration Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected] the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***This episode is brought to you by Webflow.If you're a B2B marketer right now, you’re probably being asked to do more with less - less budget, fewer resources, tighter timelines. And you’re expected to somehow grow pipeline anyway.That’s why more teams are switching to Webflow.Webflow is the website experience platform that helps you consolidate your stack, reduce program spend, and move faster. Instead of juggling a dozen tools and waiting on devs, Webflow gives marketing and design teams the power to build, launch, and optimize sites all in one place.No-code flexibility. Dev-level control. Built-in A/B testing, SEO, localization, and AI tools. It’s everything you need to turn your website into your highest-performing channel.It’s everything you need to turn your website into your most efficient, highest-performing channel.Check it out at webflow.com/exitfive.

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• B2B LinkedIn Ads Playbook: What Works (and What Doesn’t) in 2025

  #243 Linkedin Ads | In this episode, Danielle Messler sits down with Anthony Blatner (LinkedIn ads expert and certified instructor) and Tagg Bozied (Head of Brand Awareness at Docebo and award-winning B2B campaign strategist) to dig into what actually works with B2B LinkedIn ads in 2025. These two have spent years in the trenches, building campaigns for some of the most niche, high-intent B2B audiences, and they’ve got the data and real stories to back up what works (and what definitely doesn’t).Danielle, Anthony, and Tagg cover:The biggest mistakes B2B marketers make on LinkedIn and how to fix them fastWhy “thought leader ads” are crushing right now and how to set them up the right way (even if you’re not Dave Gerhardt)How to measure success in brand awareness campaigns (including smart ways to use dwell time, frequency, and Google Analytics)Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro from Dave (01:59) - – Why This Isn’t Just a “Webinar” (03:27) - – Meet the Experts: Tagg Bozied and Anthony Blatner (05:38) - – Biggest Mistakes in LinkedIn Ads (08:09) - – How to Make LinkedIn Ads Stand Out (10:21) - – What to Know About Thought Leader Ads (14:42) - – What Does Success Look Like? Metrics That Matter (17:39) - – What’s a CTV Ad and Should You Try It? (20:43) - – Budgeting Tips for Niche Audiences (26:54) - – LinkedIn Lead Forms vs. Landing Pages (32:52) - – Proving ROI on Brand Awareness Campaigns (38:53) - – Reporting Tools and Stack Recommendations (41:35) - – Targeting Secrets and Retargeting Best Practices (44:57) - – How to Think About A/B Testing on LinkedIn (48:55) - – Wrap-Up + Where to Connect Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected] the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***This episode is brought to you by Webflow.If you're a B2B marketer right now, you’re probably being asked to do more with less - less budget, fewer resources, tighter timelines. And you’re expected to somehow grow pipeline anyway.That’s why more teams are switching to Webflow.Webflow is the website experience platform that helps you consolidate your stack, reduce program spend, and move faster. Instead of juggling a dozen tools and waiting on devs, Webflow gives marketing and design teams the power to build, launch, and optimize sites all in one place.No-code flexibility. Dev-level control. Built-in A/B testing, SEO, localization, and AI tools. It’s everything you need to turn your website into your highest-performing channel.It’s everything you need to turn your website into your most efficient, highest-performing channel.Check it out at webflow.com/exitfive.

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• The Quiet Shift: How B2B Teams are Winning Post-SEO

  #242: Content Strategy | In this episode, Danielle sits down with Brendan Hufford, founder of Growth Sprints, to talk about what actually works in content and SEO today and why most B2B strategies are broken. Brendan went from high school teacher to leading content at top SaaS companies, and now helps brands move faster and build content strategies that drive real impact.They cover:Why most SEO strategies are broken - and why retainers make it worseThe content checklist that took ActiveCampaign from 200K to 240K visitors in 30 daysWhy the most lucrative SEO opportunities are hiding in plain sightBrendan’s "immortal newsletter" framework that cuts production time in half while doubling engagementPlus, check out the checklist Brendan mentioned in this episode here! Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro to Brendan (04:56) - – Lessons from teaching that apply directly to marketing (07:56) - – Why Brendan left education and entered the B2B world (09:26) - – Early agency and in-house marketing experience (11:11) - – Building a defensible career: audience, trust, and network (13:31) - – The Growth Sprints model: why retainers don’t make sense (14:41) - – Content strategy in bets, not buckets (15:56) - – Why SEO still works and where it actually drives results (17:26) - – Getting deep on audience, product, and internal dynamics (19:41) - – What marketers get wrong about internal buy-in (21:41) - – Real example: what a content sprint looks like in practice (23:11) - – The power of internal linking and content refreshes (26:19) - – How Google views internal linking and user signals (29:19) - – Why technical SEO is often overrated (32:19) - – Brendan’s hot take: most SEOs aren’t marketers (33:49) - – Why the “SEO takes 6 months” narrative is flawed (35:49) - – The problem with traditional retainers and content brief models (37:19) - – The immortal newsletter: how to mix evergreen + ephemeral content (40:19) - – Naming the problem, not just the category (41:49) - – Content should do 3–5 jobs at once: how to prioritize impact (44:19) - – The real value of competitor and alternatives pages (46:49) - – How to make content more useful for sales and buyer enablement (48:19) - – Brendan’s final mindset shift: create content that earns its keep Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected] the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***This episode is brought to you by Webflow.If you're a B2B marketer right now, you’re probably being asked to do more with less - less budget, fewer resources, tighter timelines. And you’re expected to somehow grow pipeline anyway.That’s why more teams are switching to Webflow.Webflow is the website experience platform that helps you consolidate your stack, reduce program spend, and move faster. Instead of juggling a dozen tools and waiting on devs, Webflow gives marketing and design teams the power to build, launch, and optimize sites all in one place.No-code flexibility. Dev-level control. Built-in A/B testing, SEO, localization, and AI tools. It’s everything you need to turn your website into your highest-performing channel.It’s everything you need to turn your website into your most efficient, highest-performing channel.Check it out at webflow.com/exitfive.

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• Email Marketing Breakdown: How to Cut Through the Noise in 2025

  #241: Email Strategy | Email isn’t dead – it’s just changing fast.It’s still one of the few B2B marketing channels where you can actually own your audience and reach your ideal customers with the push of a button.In this session from the Ultimate Roast of B2B Emails, Danielle hosts Beth O’Malley (Founder, astral.), Jay Schwedelson (Founder, Subjectline.com & GURU Media Hub), and Jaina Mistry (Director, Brand and Content Marketing at Litmus) for a tactical session on what’s actually working in email marketing in 2025.They cover:What an effective email marketing strategy looks like todayKey elements of great emailsHow to write irresistible subject linesAll the ins and outs of deliverability and landing in the inboxPlus, they tackle a live Q&A, hot takes on open rates, resends, clickbait, personalization, and how to fix your email marketing strategy.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro to Beth, Jay, and Jaina (04:25) - – Why bad emails are killing results (06:57) - – How to think about email beyond lead gen (09:09) - – The real problem with how B2B measures email success (10:25) - – Open rates: Are they dead or still useful? (14:49) - – Should you resend to non-openers? The great debate (19:45) - – Deliverability basics: What B2B marketers miss (23:03) - – Personalization: What actually works (and what doesn’t) (29:12) - – Why exclusion (not just segmentation) matters in email (31:27) - – AI summaries and how they’re reshaping the inbox (34:12) - – Clicks vs engagement: What you should really track (36:37) - – Why structured clicks matter more than just "more clicks" (40:22) - – How to think about email length and structure in 2025 (43:33) - – Technical tips: Avoiding clipping, formatting for mobile (45:31) - – Clickbait subject lines: Where to draw the line (47:32) - – Final advice for marketers Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected] the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***This episode is brought to you by Webflow.If you're a B2B marketer right now, you’re probably being asked to do more with less - less budget, fewer resources, tighter timelines. And you’re expected to somehow grow pipeline anyway.That’s why more teams are switching to Webflow.Webflow is the website experience platform that helps you consolidate your stack, reduce program spend, and move faster. Instead of juggling a dozen tools and waiting on devs, Webflow gives marketing and design teams the power to build, launch, and optimize sites all in one place.No-code flexibility. Dev-level control. Built-in A/B testing, SEO, localization, and AI tools. It’s everything you need to turn your website into your highest-performing channel.It’s everything you need to turn your website into your most efficient, highest-performing channel.Check it out at webflow.com/exitfive.

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• Video in B2B: What Works, What Doesn’t, and Where to Start

  #240: Video Strategy | In this episode, Danielle sits down with Connor Lewis, founder of Studio Lewis, to talk all things B2B video - what works, what doesn’t, and how to actually get started. Connor spent years building in-house video from the ground up before going solo. Now, he works with B2B brands on high-performing video ads and he’s here to break down what he’s learned.Danielle and Connor cover:Why production value doesn’t matter as much as you thinkHow to turn existing blog posts and webinars into watchable videoWhat’s working on LinkedIn video in 2025How to get started with video without hiring an agency or a full-time teamSimple formats that make video approachableTimestamps(00:00) - – Intro to Connor (04:11) - – Learning video by doing: from intern to strategist (06:11) - – What’s working in B2B video on LinkedIn in 2025 (07:38) - – Three types of videos that perform best (08:59) - – Why video ads aren’t the best place to start (09:52) - – How to turn top blog posts into YouTube videos that rank (11:45) - – Using video to refresh blog content and boost SEO (12:25) - – How to use video effectively for virtual and in-person events (13:19) - – Repurposing Q&A sections from webinars into high-performing short clips (15:14) - – Creating shorts from top audience questions (16:27) - – The only parts of video that really matter (17:14) - – Why “how I” beats “how to” every time (19:06) - – The “reverse Rambo” hook format and how to use it (21:05) - – How setting and authenticity improve engagement (22:34) - – Why stiff, overproduced videos are killing your reach (25:12) - – How to get started with video if you don’t have a team or budget (27:18) - – Why marketers need to get comfortable on camera (27:40) - – Podcasts as a powerful entry point into video (28:37) - – How to test video with a simple 4-part limited series (30:13) - – Low-budget options that still convert (30:41) - – Why product marketers often make the best video collaborators (31:25) - – Final advice: don’t wait until it’s perfect, just start! Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected] the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***This episode is brought to you by Webflow.If you're a B2B marketer right now, you’re probably being asked to do more with less - less budget, fewer resources, tighter timelines. And you’re expected to somehow grow pipeline anyway.That’s why more teams are switching to Webflow.Webflow is the website experience platform that helps you consolidate your stack, reduce program spend, and move faster. Instead of juggling a dozen tools and waiting on devs, Webflow gives marketing and design teams the power to build, launch, and optimize sites all in one place.No-code flexibility. Dev-level control. Built-in A/B testing, SEO, localization, and AI tools. It’s everything you need to turn your website into your highest-performing channel.It’s everything you need to turn your website into your most efficient, highest-performing channel.Check it out at webflow.com/exitfive.

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