SuperLife with Darin Olien

In this raw, wide-ranging conversation, Darin sits down with Frank Zummo, award-winning drummer for Sum 41, founding member of Street Drum Corps, and current touring drummer for Electric Callboy, to explore what it really takes to sustain creativity, health, and purpose inside the extreme demands of the music industry. From high-pressure fill-in moments and massive tours to mental health, fatherhood, fear, discipline, and recovery, this episode is a masterclass in resilience. Frank opens up about grief, identity, panic, persistence, and how true success comes from staying available when opportunity shows up.   What You'll Learn What it takes to master an entire arena-level set in less than 24 hours The mental and physical demands of high-performance touring How Frank manages recovery, inflammation, and stress on the road Why breathwork, cold exposure, and routine are non-negotiable Hidden health risks of pyrotechnics, heavy metals, and touring environments How discipline becomes freedom when it's built into daily systems Navigating panic, uncertainty, and career transitions at the top level Turning fear into a tool instead of something to suppress The difference between rational and irrational fear How availability creates probability in life and career Lessons from loss, grief, and complicated parent relationships Why creativity can't be replicated by machines or algorithms Staying present as a parent while living an unconventional life Why persistence beats talent over the long run How the music industry, and wellness culture, is changing   Chapters 00:00:03 – Welcome to SuperLife and the mission of sovereignty 00:00:32 – Sponsor: TheraSage and natural healing technologies 00:02:10 – Introducing Frank Zummo 00:02:40 – Life as a professional touring drummer 00:02:56 – Learning a full Electric Callboy set in under a day 00:03:21 – Creativity, technology, and focus 00:04:07 – Frank's respect for Darin's work and health advocacy 00:06:01 – XPT, breathwork, and lifestyle changes 00:07:05 – Heavy metals, pyrotechnics, and detox protocols 00:08:27 – Sauna, ice baths, and recovery on tour 00:10:49 – Down-regulating after high-adrenaline performances 00:12:10 – Warming up smarter, not harder 00:12:53 – Nutrition, protein shakes, and avoiding tour junk food 00:13:52 – Discipline, planning, and long-term consistency 00:15:10 – Frank's relationship with his father and grief 00:16:35 – Learning from trauma instead of repeating it 00:18:30 – Workshops, kids, and mental health conversations 00:19:51 – Writing the book and creative freedom 00:22:25 – Filling in for Tommy Lee and career-defining moments 00:24:07 – Presence, gratitude, and holding onto the good 00:27:13 – Fear, uncertainty, and career transitions 00:28:16 – Breathwork for anxiety and panic 00:29:18 – Staying open when plans collapse 00:30:34 – Electric Callboy and a new chapter 00:31:36 – Family, touring, and being present as a father 00:32:47 – Rethinking fear and emotional programming 00:35:08 – Rational vs irrational fear 00:36:32 – Availability, probability, and opportunity 00:37:29 – Tunnel vision, persistence, and staying the course 00:39:35 – Doing whatever it takes early on 00:41:40 – Building Street Drum Corps from the ground up 00:43:11 – Walking away from success for mental health 00:46:03 – Health, discipline, and longevity in music 00:50:18 – Passion, authenticity, and staying true 00:52:06 – Social media, bullying, and kids today 00:55:00 – Parenting, education, and real-world learning 00:57:06 – Travel, family, and perspective 01:00:14 – Small changes, fatal conveniences, and starting slow 01:01:26 – Closing reflections on persistence and purpose     Thank You to Our Sponsors: Therasage: Go to www.therasage.com and use code DARIN at checkout for 15% off Bite Toothpaste: Go to trybite.com/DARIN20 or use code DARIN20 for 20% off your first order. Caldera Lab: Experience the clinically proven benefits of Caldera Lab's clean skincare regimen and enjoy 20% off your order by visiting calderalab.com/darin and using code DARIN at checkout.   Join the SuperLife Patreon: This is where Darin now shares the deeper work: - weekly voice notes - ingredient trackers - wellness challenges - extended conversations - community accountability - sovereignty practices Join now for only $7.49/month at https://patreon.com/darinolien   Connect with Darin Olien: Website: darinolien.com Instagram: @darinolien Book: Fatal Conveniences Platform & Products: superlife.com   Connect with Frank Zummo: Instagram: @frankzummo Spotify: @frankzummo Watch Street Drum Corps live! Book: Unbreakable Rhythm   Key Takeaway When you stay disciplined, present, and available, life has a way of meeting you with opportunities you could never plan.  

In this solo episode, Darin breaks down one of the most misunderstood drivers of behavior change: environment. We've been taught that success comes down to discipline, motivation, and willpower, but neuroscience tells a very different story. Darin explains how modern environments hijack the brain's reward system, override conscious choice, and quietly shape habits before we even realize it. This episode is a practical, science-backed roadmap for redesigning your surroundings so healthy behaviors become automatic and self-sabotaging patterns lose their grip.     What You'll Learn Why willpower is a weak and unreliable backup system How your environment shapes behavior before conscious choice The neuroscience behind cues, habits, and automatic behavior Why modern food and tech are engineered to hijack dopamine How stress amplifies cravings and impulsive behavior The link between cortisol, dopamine, and habit formation Why changing your environment works better than "trying harder" How visual cues influence food choices and cravings Why phones, notifications, and color overstimulate the brain Simple ways to design a SuperLife environment that supports your goals     Chapters 00:00:03 – Welcome to SuperLife and the mission of sovereignty 00:00:33 – Sponsor: TruNiagen NAD⁺ supplements and why verification matters 00:02:18 – Introducing today's topic: environment vs willpower 00:02:42 – Why willpower has been misunderstood 00:03:18 – Willpower as a weak backup system 00:03:32 – How surroundings shape habits automatically 00:03:53 – The neuroscience of behavior change 00:04:01 – Dopamine hijacking in modern life 00:04:14 – Designing environments that make good habits automatic 00:05:06 – Why this topic matters more than ever 00:05:46 – External cues and automatic brain responses 00:06:18 – Hippocampus, basal ganglia, and habit loops 00:06:55 – Nudge theory and environmental design 00:07:31 – Why willpower shouldn't lead behavior change 00:07:55 – Food cues, stress, and cravings 00:08:20 – Phones, notifications, and dopamine overload 00:09:05 – Reward prediction and cue-driven behavior 00:10:02 – Redesigning environments to reduce addiction 00:10:34 – Stress hormones and habit reinforcement 00:11:30 – Sponsor: Our Place non-toxic cookware 00:13:34 – Stress, scrolling, and lost time 00:14:26 – Junk food, stress, and compulsive eating 00:15:12 – How environmental cues shift food desire 00:15:28 – Engineered foods and reward circuits 00:16:09 – Tech cues, stress, and attention hijacking 00:17:06 – Practical solutions: designing a SuperLife environment 00:17:48 – Kitchen setup and visual food cues 00:18:41 – Workspace design and single-purpose zones 00:19:08 – Reducing digital dopamine triggers 00:19:32 – Using grayscale mode on your phone 00:20:32 – Social environment and behavior modeling 00:21:21 – Community, support, and the SuperLife Patreon 00:22:18 – Bringing nature into your home 00:23:19 – Environment influences habits more than willpower 00:23:52 – Why inaction keeps you stuck 00:24:13 – Changing your environment to change your life 00:24:26 – Closing thoughts and call to action     Thank You to Our Sponsors: Our Place: Non-toxic cookware that keeps harmful chemicals out of your food. Get 10% off at fromourplace.com with code DARIN. Tru Niagen: Boost NAD+ levels for cellular health and longevity. Get 20% off with code DARIN20 at truniagen.com.     Find More From Darin: Website: darinolien.com Instagram: @darinolien Book: Fatal Conveniences     Key Takeaway If you don't change your environment, something else will keep making choices for you.     Bibliography/Sources Clear, J. (2018). Atomic habits: An easy & proven way to build good habits & break bad ones. Avery. (Reference for Environment > Willpower). https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits Laran, J., & Salerno, A. (2013). Life-history strategy, food choice, and caloric consumption. Psychological Science, 24(2), 167–173. (Reference for harsh environment cues increasing desire for energy-dense foods). https://doi.org/10.1177/0956797612450031 Mullainathan, S., & Shafir, E. (2013). Scarcity: Why having so little means so much. Times Books. 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In this powerful and deeply personal conversation, Darin sits down with Hagen Thiers to unpack one of the most misunderstood journeys in health: why doing "everything right" still doesn't always work — and how true transformation requires decoding the body's survival signals, not fighting them. Hagen shares his remarkable physical transformation after decades of extreme metabolic adaptation, chronic gut inflammation, and stress-driven physiology. Together, they explore metabolism, inflammation, hyperbaric oxygen therapy, protein intake, discipline, and why sustainable health is built through patience, self-leadership, and listening to the body's intelligence.     What You'll Learn in This Episode Why extreme dieting and endurance stress can permanently slow metabolism How survival adaptation can block fat loss despite "perfect" habits The overlooked role of gut inflammation in weight retention Why fat is a protective organ, not just stored energy How leptin signaling and inflammation dictate fat loss resistance The difference between calorie math and biological reality Why healing must precede weight loss for many people How protein intake preserves muscle during fat loss Why discipline beats motivation every time The role of hyperbaric oxygen in reducing inflammation and restoring function How oxygen delivery impacts fat tissue, gut health, and recovery Why consistency over months—not hacks—creates lasting change How physical freedom directly impacts happiness and life quality     Chapters 00:00:03 – Welcome to SuperLife and the mission of sovereignty and health 00:00:32 – Sponsor: Fatty15 and cellular health 00:04:14 – Introducing Hagen Thiers 00:09:43 – Hagen's transformation and why this conversation matters 00:11:26 – Doing everything right but still being stuck 00:13:28 – Discovering severe metabolic suppression 00:14:54 – Extreme endurance, starvation adaptation, and survival metabolism 00:17:04 – Why chronic calorie restriction backfires 00:20:56 – Gut inflammation as the real barrier to fat loss 00:22:41 – Healing before weight loss 00:23:26 – Fiber diversity, probiotics, and microbiome repair 00:24:30 – Enter hyperbaric oxygen therapy 00:27:57 – Why calories in / calories out breaks down 00:30:30 – Stress, inflammation, and metabolic shutdown 00:31:53 – Protein requirements and muscle preservation 00:35:47 – Discipline as a long-term lifestyle 00:38:54 – Eating frequency and metabolic signaling 00:43:39 – How hyperbaric oxygen works 00:47:31 – Why results accelerate after consistency 00:50:23 – 170 lbs lost and metabolic breakthrough 00:54:32 – Oxygen quality and chamber safety 00:58:22 – Breathwork vs hyperbaric oxygen 01:03:40 – Building an internal healing environment 01:05:05 – Life after transformation 01:06:42 – Discipline, the gym, and honest feedback 01:09:26 – Health as freedom, not restriction 01:11:39 – Inflammation as the missing piece for most people 01:12:45 – Closing reflections and hope for listeners     Thank You to Our Sponsors Therasage: Go to www.therasage.com and use code DARIN at checkout for 15% off Our Place: Toxic-free, durable cookware that supports healthy cooking. Go to their website at fromourplace.com/darin and get 35% off sitewide in their largest sale of the year. Manna Vitality: Go to mannavitality.com/ and use code DARIN12 for 12% off your order.     Join the SuperLife Patreon Community Get Darin's deeper wellness breakdowns — beyond social media restrictions: Weekly voice notes Ingredient deep dives Wellness challenges Energy + consciousness tools Community accountability Extended episodes Join for $7.49/month → https://patreon.com/darinolien     Find More from Hagen Thiers Website: https://waveguard.com/en/ Instagram: @biohacking_ht     Find More from Darin Olien: Instagram: @darinolien Podcast: SuperLife Podcast Website: superlife.com Book: Fatal Conveniences     Key Takeaway True health isn't about forcing the body to change — it's about creating the conditions where the body finally feels safe enough to let go.

Are you exhausted all the time? In this solo episode, Darin breaks down why so many people feel chronically exhausted despite eating clean, exercising, and "doing everything right." He explains how modern life disrupts mitochondrial function, circadian rhythm, stress signaling, and nutrient availability, and why fatigue is not a personal failure, but a biological signal. This episode offers a grounded, practical roadmap to restoring energy by realigning your environment, habits, and daily rhythms with how the body is actually designed to function.     What You'll Learn in This Episode: Why chronic fatigue is exploding—even among healthy, active people How mitochondria do far more than "make energy" The role of circadian rhythm, light exposure, and timing in energy production Why stress, overtraining, and modern lifestyles drain cellular energy How emotional suppression and unexpressed stress affect vitality The difference between forcing energy and allowing energy Simple daily practices that support mitochondrial repair How breathwork, stillness, and social connection restore resilience Why nutrition alone isn't enough without rhythm and recovery How to realign your biology with the modern world     Timecodes 00:00:00 – Welcome to SuperLife and the intention behind this episode 00:00:32 – Sponsor: TheraSage and natural frequency-based healing 00:02:10 – Happy New Year + why this conversation matters now 00:02:37 – Are you exhausted even though you're "doing everything right"? 00:03:26 – The modern energy crisis and rising chronic fatigue 00:04:12 – Why surface-level health advice no longer works 00:04:27 – Mitochondria: more than energy factories 00:04:59 – Circadian misalignment, EMFs, and modern stressors 00:05:36 – Overtraining, stress load, and lack of recovery 00:06:00 – Fatigue as a signal, not a lack of discipline 00:06:18 – How artificial light disrupts internal clocks 00:07:25 – Discipline as alignment with natural rhythms 00:07:36 – Emotional release, primal expression, and energy recovery 00:08:47 – Why "why am I tired all the time?" is exploding online 00:09:24 – The mitochondria as environmental sensors 00:10:06 – Stress signaling, thoughts, and cellular energy flow 00:11:18 – Breathwork and slowing the nervous system 00:12:24 – Social connection and low-stress signaling 00:13:02 – Sponsor: Bite toothpaste and eliminating plastic exposure 00:15:19 – Morning sunlight and circadian priming 00:15:52 – Reducing artificial light at night 00:16:15 – Nutrients that support mitochondrial function 00:17:29 – Sleep timing, consistency, and repair 00:18:20 – Evening routines and melatonin protection 00:19:46 – Small daily steps compound into real energy 00:20:17 – Antioxidants, inflammation, and recovery 00:20:49 – Training smarter, not harder 00:21:31 – Breathwork, sauna, and recovery rituals 00:22:26 – Nutrition, protein, and polyphenols 00:24:37 – Five daily energy takeaways 00:25:24 – Energy is permitted, not forced 00:26:03 – Listening to the body and closing reflections 00:26:49 – SuperLife Patreon and community support     Join the SuperLife Community Get Darin's deeper wellness breakdowns — beyond social media restrictions: Weekly voice notes Ingredient deep dives Wellness challenges Energy + consciousness tools Community accountability Extended episodes Join for $7.49/month → https://patreon.com/darinolien     Thank You to Our Sponsors: Therasage: Go to www.therasage.com and use code DARIN at checkout for 15% off Bite Toothpaste: Go to trybite.com/DARIN20 or use code DARIN20 for 20% off your first order.     Find More from Darin Olien: Instagram: @darinolien Podcast: SuperLife Podcast Website: superlife.com Book: Fatal Conveniences     Key Takeaway "Fatigue isn't failure. 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In this expansive and deeply honest conversation, Darin sits down with Gregory Schwartz for a wide-ranging exploration of awakening, ecology, food systems, energy, consciousness, and what it truly means to live in right relationship with the planet and ourselves. What begins as a conversation about athletic identity and environmental travel unfolds into a profound dialogue on political ecology, spiritual awakening, mitochondrial intelligence, community-scale solutions, and the collapse of outdated belief systems. This episode bridges the scientific, the spiritual, and the deeply human—offering a grounded yet visionary roadmap for creating a future where health, sovereignty, and connection replace extraction, disconnection, and burnout.     What You'll Learn in This Episode How early athletic identity, injury, and discipline shaped Greg's lifelong path Why travel and "ground-truthing" reality changes how we see the world The concept of the "Planet Doctor" and speaking on behalf of Earth Why data alone doesn't change behavior—and why the heart must lead How food systems, soil health, and gut health are inseparably linked The real reasons environmental solutions stall despite available money and technology Why community-scale action is the missing link between individual and government change How regenerative food systems ripple into health, ecology, and social cohesion The dangers of hyper-productivity and the loss of rest, recovery, and contemplation Why mitochondria are not just powerhouses—but listeners and conductors of energy What spiritual awakening actually feels like—and why it can be destabilizing The collapse of identity as a necessary step toward integration The difference between being a messenger and being the message How awakenings mature from chaos into discipline, embodiment, and service Why optimism comes from living examples, not abstract ideology How small, aligned actions create resonance fields that attract new realities     Timecodes 00:00 – Athletic roots, injury, and the pivot into physiology & nutrition 03:00 – Travel, environmental exposure, and seeing reality beyond data 07:00 – Political ecology, capitalism, and the illusion of separation from nature 12:30 – Food systems, soil health, and gut microbiome parallels 16:00 – Regenerative agriculture, working with farmers, and nuance over dogma 20:00 – Community-scale solutions: food, energy, microgrids, and localization 24:00 – Burnout culture, productivity addiction, and missing rest cycles 27:00 – Mitochondria, flow state, and the intelligence of the cell 30:00 – Spiritual awakening: lightning bolts, breakdowns, and integration 35:00 – Heaven, hell, and altered states as present-moment realities 39:00 – Discipline vs. chaos: maturing the awakening process 44:00 – Being the message vs. delivering the message 49:00 – Embodiment, purpose, and integrating spirituality into real life 55:00 – System collapse, courage, and rebuilding new realities 01:00:00 – Hope, optimism, and why examples matter more than arguments 01:05:00 – Creating resonance through aligned action and community     Find More From Gregory Schwartz Political ecology research and teaching Environmental systems, food sovereignty, and regenerative frameworks Community-scale energy and food solutions Writing and speaking on consciousness, awakening, and integration     Thank You to Our Sponsors Truniagen: Go to www.truniagen.com and use code DARIN20 at checkout for 20% off Fatty15: Get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to fatty15.com/DARIN and using code DARIN at checkout.     Join the SuperLife Community Get Darin's deeper wellness breakdowns — beyond social media restrictions: Weekly voice notes Ingredient deep dives Wellness challenges Energy + consciousness tools Community accountability Extended episodes Join for $7.49/month → https://patreon.com/darinolien     Find More from Gregory Schwartz Website: theplanetdoctor.com Instagram: @theplanetdoctor Try Greg's Free Masterclass by signing up here!     Find More from Darin Olien: Instagram: @darinolien Podcast: SuperLife Podcast Website: superlife.com Book: Fatal Conveniences     Key Takeaway "The systems don't change because we lack solutions—they don't change because we haven't changed our relationship to ourselves, to nature, and to each other. When that shifts, everything else follows."