In this episode of the School Can't Experience Podcast, host Leisa Reichelt is joined by clinical psychologist Adelle Sushames to discuss innovative methods for improving communication with neurodivergent children. Adelle shares her journey, introduces the card decks she has created (Spoon Thieves, Spoon Savers, ND Me), and explains how these tools help children articulate their experiences and needs. The conversation covers the challenges of traditional deficit models in psychology, the importance of affirming language, and practical strategies for parents and educators to foster better understanding and support for autistic and ADHD kids. Adelle shares valuable insights into how we can facilitate communication when communication is hard, and the benefits of using non-verbal tools to reduce stress for both children and caregivers.00:00 Welcome to the School Can't Experience Podcast00:27 Introducing Adelle Sushames: Clinical Psychologist and Card Deck Creator01:09 Adelle's Journey to Understanding Neurodivergence06:17 Challenges in Communication with Neurodivergent Kids14:16 Using Spoon Theory to Understand Energy Drain21:46 Spoon Savers: Tools to Replenish Energy23:36 Applying Card Decks in Real Life27:07 Empowering Schools with Spoons at School Cards29:17 Conclusion and ResourcesRecommended ResourcesJoin Adelle’s mailing list or buy her card decks: https://www.neurodivergentally.com/ Adelle on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/neurodivergent_ally/Student Stress Investigation card deck (Tiffany Westphal) https://www.studentstressinvestigation.com.au/Dr Dan Siegel’s Hand Model of the Brain - https://drdansiegel.com/hand-model-of-the-brain/Send us a textSupport the show School Can’t Australia Facebook Community - https://www.facebook.com/groups/schoolphobiaschoolrefusalaustralia Make a donation to School Can’t Australia - https://www.schoolcantaustralia.com.au/get-involved If you are a parent of carer in Australia and experiencing distress, please call Lifeline on 13 11 14 or contact the Parent Help Line. - https://kidshelpline.com.au/parents/issues/how-parentline-can-help-you You can contact us to volunteer to share your School Can't story or some feedback via email on
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