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0:00 Intro
1:27 Language & Translation
--"justice" or "righteousness"
--"love" or "charity"
--"kill" or "murder
12:41 Can you love while you kill?
-- Catholic capital punishment
--altruistic philicide
--Inquisition
18:32 When Jesus heard a voice (Matthew 16:21-27)
23:31 Are all soldiers who kill in psychosis?
25:24 The role of philosophy in the Catholic Church
37:53 The major failure of Catholic education
PART I (Episode 167)
In the first video, Ellen compared Joan of Arc to Lindsay Clancy and asked the question: If Joan of Arc and Lindsay Clancy both heard voices that told them to kill, why was Joan of Arc right to follow them and Lindsay Clancy was wrong?
PART II (Episode 168)
Fr. McCarthy joined us to answer some of the common objections voiced by those who seriously took offense at the comparison in Part I.
PART III
Here, in Part III, you'll hear the third part of our conversation, where we talk a little bit about translations, specifically whether the command is "Thou Shall Not Murder" or "Thou Shall Not Kill."
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Nick Fuentes expresses honestly the predicament of Catholics (which is in his words "the predicament the Jews were in in the Gospels"), and Ellen responds by reading a chapter from Fr. McCarthy's book, "Christian Just War Theory: The Logic of Deceit" called "Violent Monotheism: Truth or Falsehood?"
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Theo Von interviewed Bishop Robert Barron, and one of the questions he asked was: "Did Christianity ever have a military or was that even a thing?" Bishop Barron's answer was...sparse. We get Fr. McCarthy's take on Barron's response.
Published on September 11, 2026, on the 25th anniversary of "September 11th".
0:00 Thoughts on September 11
8:42 Getting my hair done
9:35 Thomas Merton
15:09 "Did Christianity ever have a military or was that even a thing?"
20:48 Fr. McCarthy responds to Bishop Barron's comments
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Final thoughts on the Lindsay Clancy trial (from someone who actually watched the Lindsay Clancy trial).
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In the first video (Episode 166), Ellen compared Joan of Arc to Lindsay Clancy and asked the question: If Joan of Arc and Lindsay Clancy each heard voices that told her to kill, why was Joan of Arc right to follow them and Lindsay Clancy was wrong? Furthermore, how do you know if you hear a voice that tells you to kill whether it is from God?
Many viewers on YouTube fiercely objected to the mere comparison, so in the next episode (167), Fr. McCarthy joined us to answer some of the common (and thoughtful) objections voiced by those who seriously took offense at the comparison. In Part I (Episode 167), we tried to remove mental barriers so that we could get back to the main question: How do you know if you hear a voice that tells you to kill whether it is from God? We address that question here in Part II, and respond to those who ventured answers to the question in the comments of the YouTube video.
See Part I: ANSWERING OBJECTIONS here:
https://youtu.be/c0oN3Rd_6cE?si=PpcuJh5JogCitWnP
PART II: RESPONDING TO THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTION "How do you know if a voice is from God?"
0:00 picking up where we left off in Part 1 (Episode 167)
1:48 Answer #1: "The voice was from God because Joan said they were saints."
11:30 Answer #2: "What about the Crusades?"
18:32 "It might be a voice from God if the voice is telling you to fight a defensive war."
19:47: Literacy, Education, and the Bible
28:42 Poor Joan of Arc
----31:07 Primacy of Conscience
33:44 Poor Lindsay Clancy
----35:34 The State
----37:36 Guilt, Evil, Sin, and Accountability
----41:15 Church vs. State
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