The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs, LCSW

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In this week’s episode, I sit down with Peter Heymann, a coach in our BreakAwake community and a beautiful example of what is possible when someone is willing to do the real work. Peter recovered fully from chronic back pain using this work, and what makes his story especially powerful is how deeply it intersects with the way boys and men are conditioned in our culture. We talk about “the man box” — the unspoken rules so many boys are raised with: don’t cry, tough it out, man up. When we teach boys to disconnect from their emotional lives, we don’t eliminate their feelings, we just drive them underground. And the body keeps score. Peter shares how inner child work helped him reconnect with younger parts of himself that had been silenced for decades, and how that reconnection was one of the missing links in resolving his pain.

This conversation is tender, honest, and incredibly important — especially for those of us raising boys, loving men, or trying to unlearn our own inherited rules about strength and vulnerability. Peter speaks candidly about fatherhood, emotional literacy, and what it means to model something different for the next generation. His back pain is completely resolved, but even more meaningful is the freedom he feels inside himself. And I’m so thrilled he’ll be joining us again at the Omega Institute this June for his second summer with our community, witnessing people step out of fear and into their lives. You’re going to love this one. XOOX n.

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SUPPORT:

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🧠 Learn more about the brain science and clinical experiences in my book  MIND YOUR BODY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/4fd6bvdc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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THE CURE FOR CHRONIC PAIN

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Who doesn't love a success story?? This one made me smile from ear to ear. I swear my face hurt. Ann has a beautiful understanding and respect for this work, and was so brave and patient as her sweet MindBody system allowed the pain and symptoms to work through her. It's such a privilege to see my work give someone their life back, or perhaps give them their life for the first time! I know that's what it was like for me... Enjoy this beautiful conversation. xoxo n.

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SUPPORT:

 Struggling with chronic pain? Check out my Freedom From Chronic Pain course   GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/yuxczyba⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

 Anxiety controlling your life? Try my Freedom From an Anxious Life course  GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/2m9rcht8⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

 Learn more about the brain science and clinical experiences in my book   MIND YOUR BODY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/4fd6bvdc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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THE CURE FOR CHRONIC PAIN

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This episode originally aired on April 23, 2021.
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Last month inside our BreakAwake member Boot Camp, Lisa and I dove into a conversation that felt relevant for all of us: the ways we unknowingly block our own healing by staying in analysis instead of allowing real emotional processing. Overintellectualizing, building airtight narratives, replaying the same old stories—these habits can feel like we’re doing the work. They feel productive and responsible. But often they are elegant survival strategies that keep us safely in our heads and out of our bodies. In this episode, we unpack the crucial difference between insight and integration, and why understanding your symptoms is not the same thing as rewiring your nervous system.

We wanted to bring this Boot Camp teaching to everyone because it’s foundational. None of us are trying to avoid healing. In fact, most of us are working incredibly hard at it. But sometimes our brilliance becomes a barrier. When rumination replaces feeling, nothing truly shifts. Healing happens when we drop below the neck and allow anger, grief, fear, and vulnerability to move through us without immediately explaining them away. Join us as we break down how to recognize when your mind is protecting you—and how to gently step aside so your brain and body can finally learn that you are safe. xoox N&L

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SUPPORT:

🟠 Struggling with chronic pain? Check out my Freedom From Chronic Pain course  ➡️ GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/yuxczyba⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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🧠 Learn more about the brain science and clinical experiences in my book  ➡️ MIND YOUR BODY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/4fd6bvdc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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THE CURE FOR CHRONIC PAIN

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My interview with Mariel started out as a success story - because she is! Mariel was so debilitated with pain that she was actively contemplating ending her life, and now she is amazing with 80% of her severe pain gone. But as we continued with the conversation, it became clear that a RTH was in store, in order to give Mariel all the tools she needs to thrive for a lifetime. Pain, as you may recall, is but an entry point - an invitation to the precipice of the truths that have been awaiting our acknowledgment. Mariel has some work to do, but she is in a great space to do it, and I am thrilled to help her. Enjoy this heartfelt and deep Real Time Heal. xoxo n.

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 Struggling with chronic pain? Check out my Freedom From Chronic Pain course   GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/yuxczyba⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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 Learn more about the brain science and clinical experiences in my book   MIND YOUR BODY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/4fd6bvdc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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THE CURE FOR CHRONIC PAIN

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In this episode I sit down with Lindsey, whose story adds such an important layer to this work. Lindsey developed myopericarditis after a COVID infection and experienced very real, medically confirmed inflammation. But even after her scans were clear and the acute condition resolved, the chest pain did not go away. That lingering pain sent her on a journey that so many of you will recognize — the confusing space between “you’re fine” on paper and “I don’t feel fine” in your body. Chest pain is not something we’ve talked about much here before, and I’m so grateful she was willing to bring this conversation forward with honesty and nuance.

Through a mindbody approach and my work, Lindsey was able to understand why her nervous system was still sounding the alarm long after the original issue had resolved. As she began to address the fear, parenting stress, and the emotional underpinnings beneath the symptoms, the pain finally began to shift. Her experience moved her so deeply that she went on to earn her nurse coach certification and now works with others navigating chronic pain. This conversation is a powerful reminder that symptoms can be real and intense without being permanent or structural, and that healing often requires us to look beyond the scan and into the nervous system.

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SUPPORT:

🟠 Struggling with chronic pain? Check out my Freedom From Chronic Pain course  ➡️ GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/yuxczyba⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

🟠 Anxiety controlling your life? Try my Freedom From an Anxious Life course ➡️ GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/yc3vsy32⁠⁠⁠

🧠 Learn more about the brain science and clinical experiences in my book  ➡️ MIND YOUR BODY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/4fd6bvdc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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THE CURE FOR CHRONIC PAIN

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